Tuesday, July 01, 2008

A Former Homosexual Confronts Barak Obama's Distorted Gay Theology

The James Hartline Report
- On The Frontlines Of The Culture War -
July 1, 2008

A Former Homosexual Confronts The Distorted Gay Theology
Of Democratic Presidential Candidate Barak Obama
~ By Christian Activist and Former Homosexual James Hartline ~

For thirty years I was trapped inside of the homosexual lifestyle. In 2000, after years of struggling, I was completely set free and I have never gone back to the sin of homosexuality. From being a captive to homosexuality to the full liberty that comes with the salvation granted me by Jesus Christ, I have indeed experienced the full parameters of the homosexual movement and the born-again Christian life.

From the time that I started attending church as a young boy, I was taught that homosexuality is a sin. Having spent many years of intense study in the Bible, I can safely conclude that the revelations of Jesus Christ in His word do convey that God considers homosexuality to be a grave and destructive sin. Fortunately for me, God's word did not end with information about the depravity of homosexuality or the consequences for practicing such sin. The Bible also taught me how to get free from homosexuality and to stay free.

So, to me it was quite a stunning display of theological shallowness, when Democratic presidential candidate Barak Obama recently began to articulate an entirely new religious doctrine on the issue of homosexuality. Had he discovered something left undiscovered on the matter, something that I had overlooked in my twenty-five years of Bible study? How is it that a presidential candidate who claims to have attended a Christian church for twenty years is now declaring a new doctrine on homosexuality, a doctrine that I have never heard preached before by scholarly Evangelical ministers? Barak Obama's publicly articulated religious platform attempts to invalidate my own personal beliefs and experiences regarding homosexuality by promoting a new doctrine that claims Jesus embraces homosexuality as does Barak Obama himself.

According to the Cybercast News Service, Senator Obama told a crowd at Hocking College in Nelsonville, Ohio, on March 2, 2008, that he believes the Sermon on the Mount justifies his support for legal recognition of same-sex unions. He also told the crowd that his position in favor of legalized abortion does not make him "less Christian."

Obama then proceeded to diminish other New Testament verses related to homosexuality to legitimize his embracement of government support for homosexual civil unions. "I don't think it [a same-sex union] should be called marriage, but I think that it is a legal right that they should have that is recognized by the state," said Obama. "If people find that controversial then I would just refer them to the Sermon on the Mount, which I think is, in my mind, for my faith, more central than an obscure passage in Romans."

It appears that Senator Obama is intent on politicizing religion as a matter of electoral convenience. When speaking to homosexual activists, Obama regularly attempts to categorize the homosexual issue in the context of equality for sexuality via legislating the newly formed types of family as created by the gay, lesbian and transsexual agenda. When speaking to the religious communities, Obama switches off his gay-friendly rhetoric for one that gives the appearance that he is theologically confident. Picking and choosing Biblical scriptures that have little to do with proving God's true opinion of homosexuality, the Democratic presidential candidate demonstrates that he has little, if any, theological understanding of Christianity, much less something as significant as the eternal destinies of those who practice homosexuality and lesbianism.

For all general purposes, Barak Obama is part of a new, liberal extremism, that places little value on true Biblical scholarship. These new prophets of the religious left can often be heard saying that Jesus never said anything about the issue of homosexuality, thus they believe that they have Christ's blessing to encourage men to engage in the destructive act of sodomy and women to engage in the demeaning act of lesbianism. Some homosexual activists have even taken the cross through such a guttural experience as to claim that God created them homosexual, thus causing them to erroneously conclude that their homosexuality is a gift from God.

I thank God that the Holy Spirit actually encouraged me to read the Bible for myself rather than leaving my eternal destiny in the hands of some homosexual activist who is dawning religious garb while speaking from a polluted pulpit of their own creation. I remember crying out to God when I was in my own depraved days of homosexuality. I can remember in my many years of suffering through homosexuality that I attended some of the services at Metropolitan Community Church (MCC). What a sad and depressing experience that was. The MCC minister teaches that homosexuality should be embraced, much like Barak Obama does. I remember the MCC assistant pastor who spent Saturday nights at a San Diego bathhouse having sex with multiple partners before he went to church on Sunday morning. I recall another MCC minister who allowed cocaine in his apartment, along with sexual orgies, as a warm up for the Sunday morning services where the "gay is okay" gospel would be introduced to the confused and unrepentant congregation.

While Barak Obama and the advocates of the new religious left refuse to accept what the Bible actually says on the matter of homosexuality, my Bible studies have clearly concluded that a man or woman who engages in homosexuality and refuses to repent are doomed to eternal damnation. It is the saddest of sad outcomes to contemplate any man or woman going to hell. What makes Barak Obama's actions all the more abominable is that he is encouraging men and women to embrace that which will doom them to hell at the same time that he claims to be a "christian." If Barak Obama had his way, I would still be on that same dark path that was sending me to hell. Fortunately I found the real Christ, rather than the deceptive one that Democratic presidential candidate Barak Obama and his "it's hip to be horrible" pastor, Jeremiah Wright, advocate.

While Jesus did not focus on the issue of homosexuality in his ministry, He did speak extensively on the issue as indicated in the Holy Bible. Homosexuality was considered to be an abomination in the times of Jesus. Thus, as a Jewish leader in ancient Israel, He would not have been confronted with it in Jewish society. Nevertheless, Christ did address the issue, contrary to these new false theologians of the religious left who claim that Jesus never spoke on the issue.

Jesus warned His disciples that in the last days there would be a reappearance of the times of Sodom and Gomorrah on the earth. In addition to those dark times, the earth would be reignited with the environment that led to the original flood. Jesus said in Luke Chapter 17:

"And just as it happened in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the
Son of Man: they were eating, they were drinking, they were marrying, they were
being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood
came and destroyed them all." "It was the same as happened in the days of Lot:
they were eating, they were drinking, they were buying, they were selling, they
were planting, they were building; but on the day that Lot went out from Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all."
Luke 17:26-29

Why did Jesus warn His disciples, and Barak Obama, and James Hartline about the destruction of Sodom and the times of Noah as a precursor to His return upon the earth? Jesus said in Luke 17:30, "Thus it will be in the last days when the Son of Man is revealed."

Jesus emphasized a concluding passage to the reoccurrence of Sodom and the time of Noah prior to His return with this statement: "Whoever seeks to keep his life will lose it, and whoever loses {his life} will preserve it."

The answer to getting out of homosexuality is to repent as I did. In order to overcome the sin of homosexuality a person must lose his or her life. In other words, the man or woman in bondage to homosexuality must give away their life of bondage to that sin to gain the eternal life promised to the born-again believer. This concept of denying self runs counter to the advocacy of Barak Obama and his embracement of the homosexual lifestyle.

Clearly, the words of Jesus on the matter of the return of Sodom in the last days has never been more true. The entire mentality behind the homosexual movement is self-indulgence and self-worship. That is why Jesus emphasized the solution to overcoming homosexuality is to lose one's life, one's self-centered obsession with sexual sin, in order to preserve one's life in accordance with God's eternal way of life. The man who habitually engages in homosexuality cannot apprehend a life of denying himself because his focus is on self, self-fulfillment, self-pleasure, all dynamics which are at odds with the sacrificial life of Jesus Christ.

Moses, under instruction from God Almighty, spoke to Israel about a nation and its leaders who are determined to rebel against the Word of the Lord. Never have those words rung more true then today as Democratic presidential candidate Barak Obama and his followers attempt to force America to embrace the catastrophic ideology of sexual anarchy and the homosexualization of this nation. Moses said:

"They have acted corruptly toward Him, {They are} not His children, because of their defect; they are a perverse and crooked generation...."
"For they are a nation lacking in counsel, And there is no understanding in them.
"For their vine is from the vine of Sodom, And from the fields of Gomorrah; Their grapes are grapes of poison, Their clusters, bitter.
"Their wine is the venom of serpents, And the deadly poison of cobras."
Deuteronomy 32:5,28,32-33

Does Barak Obama now know more than Moses as he seeks to seduce a nation into accepting his new found religious doctrine on homosexuality? Is he so daring in his self-described theological ideals to claim a better Christianity than the one introduced by Jesus Christ himself?

Jesus spoke to the Apostle John about the consequences for homosexuality in the Book of Revelation. In complete contradiction to the false teachings of the homosexual activist who claims Jesus never said anything about homosexuality, the Book of Revelation contains extensive insights on the matter.

In defining the heaven to come for mankind, Jesus warned the Apostle John about those who would not be permitted to enter into the New Jerusalem. Jesus said:

"Outside are the dogs and the sorcerers and the immoral persons and the murderers and the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices lying."
Revelation 22:15


Not only did Jesus list various types of sinners who would not be in heaven, He gave a specific warning that those who love and practice lying would also be denied access to heaven. They will, in fact, be eternally doomed. Barak Obama and his fellow advocates of homosexuality are clearly categorized as sinners who love to tell a lie and practice it. Those who encourage human beings to engage in homosexuality by telling them the lie that it is not a sin, are, according to Jesus Christ, acting out the worst kind of sin.

To understand the language of Jesus as He spoke to the Apostle John, one must understand Old Testament language and laws. When using the term dog, Jesus was not referring to animals, but to the Sodomite, the whoremonger and the male prostitute. In Deuteronomy 23:17-18, the Lord said to Moses:

"There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of
Israel. "You shall not bring the hire of a harlot or the wages of a dog into the house of the LORD your God for any votive offering, for both of these are an abomination to the LORD your God."


The same word used for dog is the same word used for Sodomite. Jesus specifically warned that those who engaged in sodomy would not be permitted into heaven.

While false religious advocates of homosexuality claim that God destroyed Sodom because of their inhospitality, there is no scriptural basis for coming to that erroneous conclusion. There are, however, ample examples in scripture which show that God destroyed Sodom because of the homosexuality which had become rampant and violent in that city.

The Prophet Isaiah wrote:
"The expression of their faces bears witness against them, And they display their sin like Sodom; They do not even conceal it. Woe to them! For they have brought evil on themselves."

The Prophet Jeremiah wrote:
"Also among the prophets of Jerusalem I have seen a horrible thing: The committing of adultery and walking in falsehood; And they strengthen the hands of evildoers, So that no one has turned back from his wickedness. All of them have become to Me like Sodom, And her inhabitants like Gomorrah."


The Prophet Amos stated:
" 'I overthrew you, as God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah, and you were like a
firebrand snatched from a blaze; Yet you have not returned to Me,'
declares the Lord."

The Prophet Zephaniah stated:
"Therefore, as I live," declares the LORD of hosts, The God of Israel, "Surely Moab
will be like Sodom And the sons of Ammon like Gomorrah-- A place possessed by
nettles and salt pits, And a perpetual desolation. The remnant of My people will
plunder them, and the remainder of My nation will inherit them."


Jesus said:
"But on the day that Lot went out from Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from
heaven and destroyed them all."

The Apostle Peter wrote:
"And if God condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction by
reducing them to ashes, having made them an example to those who would live
ungodly lives thereafter; and if He rescued righteous Lot, oppressed by the sensual conduct of unprincipled men (for by what Lot saw and heard while living among them, felt his righteous soul tormented day after day by their lawless deeds."


Jude wrote:
"Just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same
way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are
exhibited as an example in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire."

While Barak Obama continues to promote homosexuality, he also claims that he is a Christian. He recently told the press:

"In terms of my faith, there has been so much confusion that has been deliberately
perpetrated through emails and so forth, so here are the simple facts," he said. "I am
a Christian. I am a devout Christian. I have been a member of the same church for 20
years, pray to Jesus every night, and try to go to church as much as I can when they
are not working me. Used to go quite often."

There are real credibility issues regarding Barak Obama and his claims of Christianity. Claims that are rife with doubt and hypocrisy as he expresses his adoration for the homosexual movement. Time after time, Barak Obama has been caught with one hand on the Bible and his other hand holding the hands of close advisors who mock the Bible. In addition to the hatemongering of his friend and pastor Jeremiah Wright, candidate Obama has a campaign advisor who mocked Jesus by introducing a video of Christ appearing as a homosexual while wearing a diaper.

According to World Net Daily, Obama campaign advisor Larry Lessig is shown at a 2006 seminar for Google employees introducing a clip that depicts an effeminate Jesus singing Gloria Gaynor's "I Will Survive." The Jesus figure throws off his robe, revealing a diaper-like covering, and eventually is run over by a bus as he sashays through city streets.

I wonder if Barak Obama will consider me from the "Christian side" of his pro-homosexuality or from the Larry Lessig anti-christian bigotry side, should he find out that I renounced my previous thirty years of involvement in homosexuality. Will Barak Obama show me, a former homosexual, the same "Christian" respect that he shows to the drag queens, lesbians and gay activists via his current gay pride celebratory letter on his campaign website.

I am so glad, eternally glad, in fact, that I actually took the time out of my life to read the Bible for myself rather than leave my eternal destiny in the hands of a false theologian like Barak Obama. Obama clearly knows little, if anything, regarding what the Bible actually says about the issue of homosexuality. And as a former homosexual of thirty years who has now followed the Lord Jesus Christ faithfully for nearly a decade free of homosexuality, I think I can identify someone who is trying to lead me astray on the issue. And Barak Obama is definitely trying to lead me and the rest of America astray on the issues of being a Christian and homosexuality.

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34 comments:

Anonymous said...

Does anyone really care what Obama thinks about homosexuality? The main issues are our economy, that horrible war in Iraq that is bankrupting our nation, the destruction of our environment, and the high cost of energy. Why are fundamentalists so obsessed with SEX?

Anonymous said...

Rev Hartline says that...
"It is the saddest of sad outcomes to contemplate any man or woman going to hell. "

Science has proven beyond all doubt that the creation account in the book of Genesis is false. Our universe and its contents were not created in 7 literal days. If we can not trust the Bible to tell us where we came from, how can we trust the Bible to tell us where we are going?

There is not one shred of evidence that a single person in the history of mankind has gone to a place called "hell". This is just a concept that the "inerrant" crowd uses to try to mold people to think as they do.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for being so brave. You are a rare voice of sanity and truth in an insane, turned-upside-down world.

Anonymous said...

Please do not elect Senator Obama...

USA: the demographic winter is coming.

Aging workforce.
geocities(dot)com/demographic_crash

P.S. Also new website prowomanprolife(dot)org

Anonymous said...

HIV infections have risen in this lifestyle as added proof of it's dangers. It's a health hazard, and if people are bi-sexual it puts the whole population at risk. I don't think Obama is a Christian. He's a politician and politicians will say anything to get elected.

Carlotta said...

James, your work here is so valuable and such a blessing for those of us ministering to the homosexual! What a true warrior for Christ you are!

I was on the "Michelle Obama Watch" board explaining why that I as a black woman, wasn't going to vote for Obama. That particular post was about M.Obama being the keynote speaker at the Gay/Lesbian Democratic Council assuring them of her husband's support and willingness to do away with the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA).

Naturally, a flame war ensued but I tried to avoid a debate and just referred them to your site here.

Cowardly responses were written even after a gay man said he read your blog here but resorted to calling you "phony" instead of posting to you and discussing his differing opinion. That discussion can be seen here:

Michelle Obama Reiterates Barack’s Solidarity with the GLBT Community


You aren't a phony, but very much the real deal. Not only have you left the gay lifestyle, but now you are preaching against it with confidence and joy at your new lifestyle! That's a testimony indeed.

Keep up the great work James and if you ever need supporters, count me in!

James Hartline said...

You state:
There is not one shred of evidence that a single person in the history of mankind has gone to a place called "hell". This is just a concept that the "inerrant" crowd uses to try to mold people to think as they do.

And why should we believe you? What makes you more right than the billions of people who disagree with you when they are following Christ and the Bible?

James Hartline said...

You state:Does anyone really care what Obama thinks about homosexuality? The main issues are our economy, that horrible war in Iraq that is bankrupting our nation, the destruction of our environment, and the high cost of energy. Why are fundamentalists so obsessed with SEX?

Apparently the entire radical homosexual agenda cares about Obama and his support of homosexuality. Why don't you ask the more pertinent question of why gay activists are so obsessed with SEX?

Anonymous said...

why are anti-gay activists so obsessed with gays?

James Hartline said...

You did not answer my question. Thus ends the discussion with you.

Anonymous said...

not all gay activists are obsessed with sex, but all anti-gay activists are obsessed with gays

Anonymous said...

To those who do not believe, morality, the economy and the war are totally unrelated. But if you see life as an interrelated ecology, --then everything is related to everything else; and the selfish "amorality" (immorality) of those boosting gay lifestyle "rights", pro-choice politics, and stem-cell research using tissue from abortions are the hidden cause of our present troubles.

America is degenerate: her best days are behind her. The cause of this dishonest war and the collapse of our economy--hastened by a successive natural disasters--is the largely unnoticed, unmourned loss of the clearsightedness which could once tell good from evil. Now we just "non-judgementally" consider ethics optional; and good and evil "differing lifestyles" of equal worth. . .

James Hartline said...

You have not answered the question and until you do, I will not engage you further in a wasted interaction.

francis33 said...

Thanks be to God, i have been waiting and praying for ten years that the Spirit guide me to a friend of like soul, On Sept. 8th i will be renewing my consecration to celebacy, for the glory of God, 10 years of a life of true freedom. This is a miracle, for i too lived a life of depravity in the homosexual lifestyle for 35 years, 21 of which was in a momogomous relationship. Yes, carrying the cross of homosexuality does not send one to hell, but acting out in this life does. My mantra is St. Pauls exortation to Timothy, "For God did not give you a spirit of cowardice, but one of power, love and selfcontrol, so do not be ashamed of your testimony in the Lord...." This is also my mission... In Jesus, ray francis linton

Anonymous said...

Eventually all Christian denominations will embrace homosexuality. The Episcopal Church already has and many others are following suit. Consider this: before 1930 all Christian denominations denounced contraception saying it was a grave sin against God and they often quoted the bible to back up their claim. Then the Episcopal Church at the Lambeth Council reversed 2 thousand years of consistent teaching and eventually all the other denominations did the same. Unless......One looks at the Catholic Church. But, that subject is for another blog.

Anonymous said...

I am an ex-lesbian, and I have experienced many of the same things you have in my past. I came back to Christ, and am a proud anti-homosexual Catholic! I just pray for those who are still enslaved in the polluted ideologies of those blind people. I have been free from the lifestyle for 4 years now. I was literally healed of homosexual tendencies and I have great and normal relationships with men and women now, as beautiful people of God. I commend you for your blog. Way to go!

James Hartline said...

Hello Francis 33: You are on a wonderful path. I would say to you that the Holy Spirit wants to take you much deeper in your relationship with Christ, to give you a new mind in Christ. with the new mind of Christ, you are a new man in God, all old things passed away. As the Bible and Christ completely transforms you, then like me, you will no longer have any thoughts or desires for homosexuality. It will be a thing of the past.
I must tell you that God is beginning His last days move to save many out of the homosexual lifestyle. There is a reason for this, a most unusual thing. There is something strange that is about to happen. There are many in the homosexual communities that have been stolen by satan, they belong to God for an extraordinary purpose in these last days. God wants them back. There is a prophetic army of ex-homosexuals who are coming in the full power of the prophetic to stand against the devil in these last days who will pay much retribution to the kingdom of darkness for the many who have been doomed forever for not repenting and dying in that sin.
God has need of the captives of homosexuality. Their gifts were given to them by God at birth for the beautifying of His bride, but satan stole them in the strong delusion of sexual immorality for the beautifying of the devil's kingdom. Satan should have never put his filthy hands on God's property. For now it is the time of God's great vengence and His children are coming home. They are coming home.

Anonymous said...

Dear James, brother in Christ,i am there already,believe me there is no desire or thoughts. i chose, with the grace of God,to live a celebate so all my strength, with grace, to be used as an instrument, a testimony of what the transforming love of Jesus can and will conquer, if only one desires to die to self. Then i offer up my self-denial as an oblation, a gift from the alter of my heart for the conversion of those ensnared in the net of homosexuality. Yes i believe this destructive lifestyle was instituted by satan, to destroy the sacrement of marriage and the family,thinking as he always has to steal away those souls which God so loves. But we know that His plan, His merciful Love is greater than this. Yes, you are right,God is calling up His soldiers, and the Sword is about to fall, and the Spirit will open all hearts to Light and Truth,and all will be given their last chance to decide which side to stand, the right or the left, with the lamb or the goat. But remember, Mercy endures forever, even to the last breath, like the dying thief on his cross next to our dying Savior. In J.M.J. francis33

Anonymous said...

First off, thank you James Hartline for your testimony. I must say that you hit the nail right on the head. Your research of the Bible on the topic was quite thorough. In response to anonymous who says that all Christian denominations basically have or are soon to embrace homosexuality, I must add my thoughts. I am a Catholic Christian and proud to be one. I see the Catholic Church symbolically portrayed in the parable of the Prodigal Son. The prodigal son,I feel, are the protestant churches who are straying from the one true faith for their own "interpretations of how life should be experienced" For some protestants that means it's OK to get a divorce or abortion or to act on same sex attraction. Sure, the Catholic Church, has had its share of evil people in its leadership, but Jesus said that hell would never prevail against it. Also, the Catholic Church has never erred in its teachings which are called encyclicals. The Catholic Church is adamant about every sexual act being open to life. Therefore, it supports James Hartline's analysis of the Bible. I recommend that everyone on this site go to Catholicplanet.com and read about the upcoming warning (as described by Garabandal and Medjugorje visionaries) and learn how we are about to have a new era. This new era will begin on Good Friday, 2009. There will be a return to the Catholic Church by many after a great famine (see the story of the Prodigal Son.)

Mary's Child

Anonymous said...

Amen Rev James! This issue does matter in the election. Homosexuality is Satan's plan to destroy the family and marriage. He's duped Senator Obama into believing that it's OUR choice and not against God's will. This is very sinful and you can certainly lose your soul to Satan for this. We don't need the Senator to confirm some of the American people in Satan's tricks. Let us pray for the Senator and others that are deaf and blind to homosexuality. I love you Jesus!!!

Lorraine said...

Very clear articulation James.
I am Catholic and the Pope has announced the Jubilee year of the Apostle Paul. We are reminded of Paul's blindness and sinfulness before Jesus opened his eyes to know him. This year I pray the Lord do the same for multitudes of people who simply cannot see because cultural and personal sin has blinded them. I would like to introduce to you a teaching by the late great Pope John Paul II. It is titled "The Theology of the Body". This was taught in the public square in Rome over a period of 6 years, I belive, and is now in book form. It teaches the meaning of sexuality from the book of Genesis and expounds on Christ's reference to "in the beginning" as to what was intended by God in his creation of human maleness and femaleness before the fall. Very beautiful and positive perspective on human sexuality for every Christian. God Bless you for your ministry and courage!

Fran said...

For anyone advocating the homoromeo agenda,look at the results:HIV, sterility and a place in eternal punishment

Anonymous said...

Rev Hartline,

God bless you for your honesty and your courage. Thank you for enlightening folks on the truth, so that we can all make the best choice for America in November. Catholics like me are also deeply disturbed by the candidate's positions on abortion and homosexuality. And to anonymous earlier I say, indeed we should all care what Obama thinks about homosexuality. I care also about the economy and the cost of energy, but if we want to be successful in addressing those issues and building a strong nation, let's start with rebuilding our families based on the eternal values taught to us by Jesus Christ. In fact, the teaching about the sinfulness of homosexuality is common to all major world religions...Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Christianity...all are in agreement on the destructive nature of this lifestyle. Peace and blessings to you Rev Hartline and may God reach many people who need healing through your ministry.

A Catholic Christian

Anonymous said...

James, obviously you have not visited the new Universal complex at 1202 University in Hillcrest. This new 5 million dollar facility is a gift from God and proof that he loves us. The minute you walk in you know that you are on sacred ground. Angels abound here at the Universal. This new temple of love has taken Hillcrest by a storm and started a new revival here in the gay community. Truly Hillcrest is the New Jerusalem that was prophesied in the Book of Revelation.
God does indeed love gay people. If we were the abomination that the Baptists (and others) say we are, God would have destroyed us long ago. God is pouring out his blessings on the gay community to prove to the world that he indeed does love us.

James Hartline said...

No, you do not have an understanding of God's love mr. or miss pro-universal in hillcrest. God is patient for those to repent who are lost in their sin. He is not willing that any should perish, but is long suffering waiting for His lost children to come home. However, the Bible says that His patience does have limits and that we should not test the Lord our God, lest his patience turn to vengence. You choose to play that game of testing God's patience. I, on the other hand, decided to repent of my sins and left homosexuality completely and for good. I am in safe standing with God. Your evidence of a new gay-friendly business is of no Biblical value for proving God's favor. And by the way, you can thank me for the opening of that business. It was because of my campaign to shut down the previous porn businesses on that location which paved the way for the availibility of the 1202 and 1220 University property for the current restaurant complex.

Anonymous said...

Yes Hillcrest church member, God does love "gay people", He hates the sin, the acts which are unnatural. What you refer to as gay love is a worldly, flesh love, not agape love, Godly love. Lest you forgot what happened in Noahs day with the flood, and Sodom and Gamorah......then came Jesus, savior. and to anomynous of 4:11 Sat., i am sad for you, you are living the fairy tale, the lie, truely i pray somehow...soon God sends Light your way...Peace of Christ Francis33

Anonymous said...

To say that the Universal is a gift of God is blasphemy. That place is nothing more than a pagan house of SIN put there by Satan. God fearing Christians should not put up with this nonsense any longer. We are a Christian nation. Why do we have to tolerate this type if sin? These people are taking over our streets, out economy, and even our churches. I do not profess to know the answer but if we do not clean up this mess and restore biblical morality to this nation God is going to deal with us. God cannot be mocked.

Anonymous said...

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James Hartline said...

I guess City On A Hill ministries will be loving me as a former homosexual who gave up the sin of homosexuality for the right life in Jesus Christ. Thanks for the Love from North County!

James Hartline said...

I keep getting numerous postings from cults to publish their event notices. I am not the conveyor of false religious ideals. I normally get hundreds of posts for my blog. Normally, I post only a few. This discussion on Barak Obama and his promotion of homosexuality was an exception and I have allowed a fairly free flowing posting opportunity. However, that does not mean that I am going to allow myself to be used to promote false religious programs. Postings on cult events will not be published or advertised by me.

Roxanne Lorenz said...

I am so tired of people who think that if I don't embrace evil, I am a hateful, spiteful homophobe. I have a number of homosexual friends. I love and respect them as indviduals. What I never will do is embrace their lifesyle.

Those who say that homosexuality is not an important issue, but the war and the economy are important are just blowing smoke. I for one support the war, and one day the economy will improve. After that people will continue to embrace or endure sexual sin which inevitably will lead to destruction. This is not obsesssion. This is reality.

Anonymous said...

Soooo....

What are your views on homosexuality?

Anonymous said...

I feel sorry for you. You seem to call anybody who doesn't have your viewpoint godless blasphemers interested only in ending the Bible's messages of peace and love. If you truly were gay (gay lifestyle? What in god's name is that? Like a doctor's lifestyle or a freeloader's lyfestyle?) then I would have thought you would have a more educated view on such. Apparently experiencing something is not enough information to KNOW something about it.
Spread god's messages of peace, love and brotherhood. Hate is not a part of this, so please; put a little love in your heart.
Oh, tell Patrick Johnston I read your blog, 'kay?
-WAF

Anonymous said...

Oh, and BTW, It's the straights making all the gay babies. STOP IT, DAMMIT!
And HIV is spread just as easily heterosexually as homosexually.
And homosexuality is like chastity, only funner. With the problem of overpopulation looming, you gotta admit, it's starting to look good.