tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29964825.post6669715764404200193..comments2023-07-18T08:20:22.355-07:00Comments on The James Hartline Report: A Few Reasons Why Real Christians Will Never Accept Homosexual MarriagesJames Hartlinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15958648389620982326noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29964825.post-88762300316966502362008-11-08T11:04:00.000-08:002008-11-08T11:04:00.000-08:00Statement:"the vast majority of human sexuality re...Statement:<BR/>"the vast majority of human sexuality researchers and mental health therapists accept that the root cause of homosexual orientation is genetic."<BR/><BR/>Fact or Fiction: FICTION.<BR/>There is absolutely NO consensus or scientific conclusion by any reputable scientific group, much less 'a vast majority', which have found evidence pointing to a genetic cause for homosexuality. Your claim is merely the long-unchallenged propaganda statement of the homosexual political machine which is trying to push the gene myth as a justification for homosexuality as a protective class. You cannot provide one single verified or published report which makes this claim of a vast majority within the scientific community supporting the gay gene myth. You further undermine your claim when you put forth myth to support myth. Furthermore, I have close family members and friends who work within the University of California scientific community. I know science. And your claim is not scientific.<BR/><BR/>Statement:<BR/>"The Christian bible, written by many authors and then assembled into one volume by the Catholic Church, is one of many bibles."<BR/><BR/>Fact or Fiction: FICTION.<BR/><BR/>I have taken a number of courses in Biblical studies at a well-respected Christian college. One of those courses, which is also a prerequisite for obtaining a graduate degree in ministry or a divinity doctrate, is the study of how we got the bible that we have.<BR/>Your statement is absolutely flawed and has NO basis in fact or history.<BR/>The Catholic Church was not responsible for assemblying the Bible that we have. The Old Testament was long assembled before Christianity or Catholicism even came into existence. The Catholic Church has nothing to do with the existence of our Bible or its credibility. Those who are advocates of the modern homosexual political movement are keen on introducing a fictitious role of the Catholic Church into discussions on the veracity of the Bible as they attempt to dilute the reliablity of the Bible as God's historical means of communicating His role and relationship with humanity. Removing the Catholic Church as the means by which we have our Bible destroys this erroneous argument put forth by homosexual activists in their weak attempts to dilute who God is and what He has to say about the issue of homosexuality through the Bible.<BR/><BR/>Statement: <BR/>" None of the promoters of the various bibles offer any evidence that “their” bible is the word of God. Some of the various bibles do contain divine inspiration mixed in with many absurdities. The old testament in the Christian bible contains many absurdities, from talking snakes to rabbits who chew their cuds."<BR/><BR/>Fact or Fiction: FICTION.<BR/><BR/>Once again, you demonstrate that your education and knowledge regarding the construct and divinity of the Bible is based upon secular reasoning, as well as devoid of any real correct theological exploration. Simply put, you clearly have not had any systematic theology training from which you could form a trustworthy conclusion on these important matters. The Bible teaches believers that YOU CANNOT discern the teachings of God as He has conveyed in the Bible unless you have a divine encounter with His Holy Spirit. The Bible teaches that the Word of God is foolishness to those who are devoid of His Spirit. You cannot put God's laws and teachings into their proper context unless you have been filled with the very Spirit of God who inspired men to write those matters God deemed important to communicate with mankind.<BR/>In 2 Timothy 3:16-17, the Apostle Paul wrote: "All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness, so that one who belongs to God may be competent, equipped for every good work."<BR/><BR/>Your problem, from the start, is that you are working from a foundational place of seeking to discredit the Bible so that your agenda of promoting and accepting homosexuality can occur withhout theological challenge. The sad part in your endeavor is that you are eliminating the critical and eternal role that God has given man to resolve all issues of sin. Without the Bible as the cornerstone of a man's faith, that man will never be able to find salvation in the eyes of God. <BR/><BR/>All correct science begins with the assemblying of information and facts, and then from those materials, the investigator will form a reliable conclusion. Because you are attacking the Bible without having spent the appropriate amount of time required to study it (most Christians spend a lifetime studying it and still only get a portion of it), you will never be considered a trustworthy source for Biblical analysis by any reputable scientific, social or theological community. In reality, what becomes quite clear, is that you are prejudice against the Bible and until such prejudice is removed from your bigoted thinking, you have no credibility on the matter.James Hartlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15958648389620982326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29964825.post-58030616526058745832008-11-08T09:34:00.000-08:002008-11-08T09:34:00.000-08:00With the exception of one small religious associat...With the exception of one small religious association of therapists, the vast majority of human sexuality researchers and mental health therapists accept that the root cause of homosexual orientation is genetic. Most scientific organizations also believe that homosexuality is not a choice, that biology plays some role. The National Mental Health Association says, “Most researchers believe sexual orientation is complex, and that biology plays an important role. This means that many people are born with their sexual orientation, or that it’s established at an early age.” This is the scientific viewpoint that is being taught in our schools and colleges.<BR/><BR/><BR/>James, in reference to your statements about the “bible”.<BR/>Throughout history men have written “bibles” to promote their view of “God” and his rules for a successful life. The Christian bible, written by many authors and then assembled into one volume by the Catholic Church, is one of many bibles. Fortunately, we live in a country that gives everyone the freedom to explore all bibles and then choose one, several, or none at all to guide his/her life. I choose to communicate directly with God to discern his will for my life. None of the promoters of the various bibles offer any evidence that “their” bible is the word of God. Some of the various bibles do contain divine inspiration mixed in with many absurdities. The old testament in the Christian bible contains many absurdities, from talking snakes to rabbits who chew their cuds. <BR/><BR/>James, if the King James version of the Christian bible, or another translation, suits your needs to guide you, then please continue using it. But consider that many of us know God as a living force that we can call upon each day for guidance and do not need the ancient “bible” which is irrelevant in modern society. While 90 percent of Americans believe in some form of God or higher power, less than 10 percent of the population (outside of the bible belt) believes that the “bible” is really the word of God. This is why gay people are finding acceptance today. We live in a world of science. Our schools and universities teach science; not religious dogma.<BR/>You are free to believe anything you want, just as I am free to believe otherwise. Science and public opinion is on my side. Also, my God created me as a gay guy and He would be very displeased if I adopted the behavior of a heterosexual.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com